“hold off, Is This a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle
Why don’t we earn some sound for your bottoms in the home! (It’s me personally, the base at home.) Bottom Culture is actually quite anything⢠using the internet as of late! But what can it truly mean getting a bottom? Why comes with the society made the decision bottoming is similar to getting scared to inquire of for just what need? And exactly how really does an individual begin choosing if they like bottoming?!
Along with these questions rattling around our minds, demanding responses, Drew and I also knew there is singular person we could visit for a rounded, passionate discussion about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA underneath Supreme. Chingy is among the most useful men and women i am aware writing and tweeting today, and also as a bottom my self, I am honored to call her my personal frontrunner. Chingy allows us to tease on just what it means to end up being a bottom, precisely why she dislikes “smol bean” bottom culture, the human body as opening, and your human anatomy as
total
. It is a very beautiful talk, if I carry out say-so my self! Please realize i know that I say “gorgeous” about three thousand times this occurrence, I am also looking for assistance for my problem. (the problem is actually talking like 57 year-old white gay guy.)
And! This week’s video game entails me personally speculating if complicated plots Drew defines are part of a movie or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!
PROGRAM RECORDS
+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!
+we have found a summary of most of the films that Drew used in her online game:
-
The Seventh Seal
(1937) -
Bringing Up Child
(1938) -
Pierrot ce Fou
(1965) -
Dark Swan
(2010)
+Watch Anna Faris do the greatest work of the woman career in
Smiley Face!
+Let
Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one sleep while clothed as Chrisjen
Avasarala
from
The Expanse
because you deserve that.
+Cindy Wilson of this B52s is fairly hot and honestly? “Love Shack” nevertheless whips!
+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.
EPISODE
Chingy
: i have simply already been bottoming since I have ended up being, I’m not sure, dating back to I can recall.
Drew
: Cue Rags to wealth from
Goodfellas.
Chingy
: dating back i will keep in mind, i usually wished to be a bottom, no, but variety of
[intro plays]
Drew
: Hi, I’m Drew.
Christina
: I Am Christina.
Drew
: Thank you for visiting
Hold off, So Is This a romantic date
?
Christina
:
Hold off, Is It a romantic date?
is an Autostraddle podcast aimed at the only, the sole the greatest concern of one’s times: hold off, Is it a night out together?
Drew
: And, wow, I really only froze upwards here.
Christina
: I was like, oh crap, I found myself supposed to say one thing! [laughs]
Drew
: i am really fast for the banter, my personal head just⦠The truth is that I became checking out over my personal video game notes, which we aren’t at however because we still need to present our selves. Thus, i will attempt to stay dedicated to one task each time.
Christina
: Focus up!
Drew
: My name is Drew Gregory, Im an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.
Christina
: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my personal final title for a hot moment, no fuss. I am additionally a writer at Autostraddle and other spots on the internet, a podcaster, a gay black woman. That is type it, puppy, that’s me.
Drew
: Everyone loves it. Okay, today we-
Christina
: today the online game.
Drew
: Can we have fun with the game?
Christina
: are we able to get to the video game? I can let you know’re thrilled, I could tell you’re simply shaking.
Drew
: Thus, I’ve been maintaining a dream record since 2007, plus the idea for this video game is actually-
Christina
: I did not know this about yourself!
Drew
: Yes, it is not as latest today, I always write down all my ambitions now it is only if one thing actually sticks. But, the premise of your video game is actually, am we describing the plot of an aspiration I had when I was actually a teenager, or in the morning we describing the plot of a film that we enjoyed once I ended up being an adolescent?
Christina
: Oh boy, fine.
Drew
: very, ways it will go is I’ll always describe it a dream as well as in the initial individual. So, in the event it was
Star Wars,
I would wind up as, I’m in room and that I’m fighting as part of a rebellion, and there’s a bad man who is sporting a black robot fit therefore turns out he is my father. That’s the way I’ll describe it, how we describe fantasies, but often it can be a dream, often it’ll be from a movie. Prepared?
Christina
: I’m anything, I am not sure that I’m prepared, but let’s rock. Let’s see what I’m able to do here.
Drew
: Okay, I’m on a coastline and I see this odd man dressed in black. He tells me that he’s dying and now we can take advantage of a game to decide easily stay or if perhaps the guy takes myself. We manage to avoid, but everywhere I go, men and women are ill and I feel like Death continues to be after me.The only happy part occurs when We fulfill a theater troupe and they’re a lot of fun.
Christina
: This,I think, is an aspiration.
Drew
: this will be Ingmar Bergman’s
The Seventh Seal
from 1957.
Christina
: this will be probably going to be a real gotcha on CT’s classic motion picture understanding, because the thing I realize that Drew, in your adolescence, wasn’t performing was seeing films that i will accept. At this point, I’m kind of wishing that I’ve seen none of them. I do believe which will be more enjoyable in my situation.
Drew
: the 2nd one, i am ending up in my family and a few Italian US gangsters. One of several gangsters requires that I provide over some funds, but my children and I also was able to break free. We hightail it through all this work cold landscapes, traveling I meet an actress and relate with her. We end up in a suburb. In my opinion we’re going to begin a unique existence together until she requires us to a huge mansion, and I also recognize it belongs to the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster comes there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the fantasy ends up because of the celebrity doing a musical wide variety.
Christina
: Is it a film?
Drew
: this will be an aspiration I got in 2008.
Christina
: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i suppose i must understand that it’s 2000, it’s old-school Drew brain. That is what i must keep in mind.
Drew
: Also want, exactly what films was we enjoying at that time as well as how a lot performed that effect my personal desires?
Christina
: Well, yeah, obviously quite a lot!
Drew
: an enjoyable truth is that I was in fact, I didn’t add this because I imagined this will give it away, but the gangster had been Tony Soprano because I found myself enjoying
The Sopranos
in 2008. Very, that’s a great little fact. Okay, next one, You will find an essential task, but this hot lady shows up and starts annoying me personally. I wish to end up being along with her, but I also should get my work done, so I inform the girl to exit. She keeps following me. Suddenly, a leopard seems inside my space and that I need certainly to spend the other countries in the fantasy wanting to find the leopard. I am still really nervous, I never finish could work, but no less than the girl is hot.
Christina
: it has are a dream of yours, it has are a Drew fantasy.
Drew
: This Really Is Howard Hawks’
Bringing Up Baby
from 1938.
Christina
: No, but that’s a dream you have, that’s the the majority of Drew fantasy I’ve have you ever heard. Today at this point, i am just gonna be rewriting movie background, to suit my personal whims.
Drew
: Great, I favor that. Okay, i am at a celebration and I never really like any individual there. Finally, I see this girl, we once had a crush on therefore we choose keep with each other. We choose the woman residence, but they are chased off through this number of males that are trying to kill the woman. We become on a beach also it seems like we’re going to be fine until the males come across united states. She ends up being into this different man, therefore I just take cartoonish dynamite and decide to blow myself up
Christina
: Film.
Drew
: this is certainly! This is exactly Jean Luc Goddard’s
Pierrot le Fou
, from 1965.
Christina
: never have seen, but that seems like a ding dang flick if you ask me.
Drew
: Great, I favor it. Absolutely a narration explaining a strange ship like construction that is impractical to wreck. I’m going on a retreat nearby the structure, the refuge is sort of movie theater associated, type of spiritual. I have a crush about lady within retreat, but this lady has a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there’s lots of crisis between myself and also this woman and her boyfriend, it closes with me alone. There has been a sequence disclosing the boat framework is actually impossible to destroy because a mechanical supply fixes it inside evening.
Christina
: that would be such a thing in a lot of steps, i will state film once again, why don’t you?
Drew
: it really is a dream from 2011, that performed have narration from some other person, you know, it happens!
Christina
: This is really great promo for an aspiration record, because I believe think its great would be fun basically could recall my personal ambitions in this way.
Drew
: no body likes as soon as you describe your own goals for them. I really do however, and I also’m your own friend, if you wish to write down your own hopes and dreams and tell me, i might like to discover them.
Christina
: Okay, that is very nice to know.
Drew
: I have two even more.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: i am in an attractive yard with a team of friends, each of us be seemingly getting out of bed from being drugged. We’re obligated to bathe in an acid that empties pigment therefore we become golden-haired and blue-eyed. The individuals in control start training all of us to kill, it turns out this one is operate by a crazy dictator, I reject acquiring entirely brainwashed. There’s this lady here i’ve a crush on and I convince the lady to leave with me, while leaking out I have recorded and killed, nevertheless the girl will get out. Whenever she makes the prison, she finds out we’re in the middle of a forest so there’s nowhere commit.
Christina
: Film.
Drew
: that might be 1st dream during my fantasy record from, we said, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.
Christina
: Wow.
Drew
: i believed it absolutely was interesting that I die within the fantasy, although other person continues on. But now, there’s some strange sex material taking place here, and that I’m attending must remember that certain for a time.
Christina
: surely do that.
Drew
: Okay, I have another.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: i am because of the opportunity to end up being a dancer, my mommy insists i will not manage to get it done. Absolutely this various other lady inside show who i do believe is actually hot, but I’m troubled she is going to replace myself. I am striving in rehearsal, but-end up making making use of the lady, we hook up. This really is hot, but personally i think myself personally dropping control, we get back to the dance tv show. My own body is apparently morphing into something else entirely, I’m concerned that i’ll damage.
Christina
: This is a film.
Drew
: Very,
Ebony Swan
.
Christina
: Yes, which
Ebony Swan
, definitely.
Drew
: Maybe you’ve seen
Ebony Swan
? That has been one I was thinking you viewed.
Christina
: I have come across
Dark Swan
, I⦠Fun fact, I proceeded a romantic date with men observe
Black Swan
.
Drew
: Wow.
Christina
: only right situations used to do.
Drew
: that which was that like?
Christina
: Weird, it was strange.
Drew
: Did you just like the film? Performed the guy like movie?
Christina
: i believe, I’d currently viewed it, In my opinion I became love, “let us get see it once again.” In my opinion, I was extremely pro
Ebony Swan,
and directly heterosexual factors, undoubtedly.
Drew
: Sure, okay.
Christina
: And, he had been like, “That was strange.” And that I was actually similar, “Oh well, we’re not going to continue steadily to date.”
Drew
: Wow, well If only him top, I’m hoping he is someplace doing well. Many thanks for playing this game beside me.
Christina
: Wow, I’m thus pleased we went two for nonetheless lots of we did thereon.
Drew
: maybe not awful.
Christina
: Not bad.
Drew
: You Probably Did a lot better than Elise performed as I wanted to see if this was a practical online game which could work, and she had been my guinea pig. Therefore, she only had gotten one correct.
Christina
: reasonable enough.
Drew
: Should we proceed to the main topic associated with few days?
Christina
: let us enter it, let’s fully grasp this special guest in.
Drew
: Well, I would like to initially declare that all of our major topic of the few days is actually bottoming, therefore we could simply have one extremely unique guest.
Christina
: It is only 1 individual.
Drew
: are you able to kindly present your self?
Chingy
: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I am a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. I’m also America’s primary base.
Christina
: Yes, In my opinion once we had been talking about subjects and we also’re like, “We could talk about bottoming so there’s virtually only one person we can easily have regarding pod to do this, there is singular individual who is quite literally the Supreme.”
Chingy
: Thanks a lot for identifying, it feels very good for the wonder recognized, thanks a lot
Christina
: Yes, and you’ve done great work, and here we are recognizing it.
Drew
: i do want to know once you feel like you became America’s greatest bottom. Whenever had been that a word and a label and an identity that you really presented onto?
Chingy
: Well, and so I usually just say, “i am the base Supreme.” Because, exactly who cares about The united states?
Drew
: Yes.
Christina
: Fair enough.
Chingy
: Yeah, In my opinion that i really was good at bottoming, but in 2017 or something, we visited a play celebration that was just for fem leading sadists beating myself right up for six to seven hours directly, also it was just me personally, and I also was like, “Oh, i am ideal that is ever before been.” And, i believe after that, i simply kept escalating and being, wow, i am so fun to view. Wow, i am very enjoyable as a bottom, that is wow, every person just who gets to finest me is really happy. And, it really moved from there, In my opinion, following I published an article called I’m a better Bottom Than You. Here’s Why. It had been types of a manifesto, it was a bottom manifesto.
Christina
: Yes, can verify.
Chingy
: And, a lot of people have informed me, “It is changed how they consider sex.” And, I like that a lot. Oahu is the one post back at my site that i have authored there. I written at
Vice
,
Teen Style
,
Vulture
â
Autostraddle
was the very first spot we typed, really. But yeah, that is the one blog back at my website, if you would like look it over.
Christina
: Everyone loves a good brand name, Everyone loves understanding a brand name, and that I believe that’s really gorgeous, simply, brand name management of yours bottomy yourself. I think, which is truly gorgeous to see.
Chingy
: thanks, i acquired my basic authorship opportunity at
Autostraddle
because I became authoring becoming a bottom, and being poly, and being actually deep into getting a fabric dyke. And because next, I’ve began to write about a number of other things, but becoming bottom supreme only method of could be the one through type of it-all.
Christina
: Yes.
Drew
: I also feel like you are a very productive bottom also in the way which you write about, and explore, and I also think knowledge bottoming you are very energetic. While, I think there are many the queer neighborhood, maybe, particularly the lesbian area, that perhaps thinks about bottoming as⦠I don’t know-
Chingy:
Passivity
.
Christina
: Mm-hmm
(Affirmative)
.
Drew
: Yeah.
Chingy
: Yeah, I typically say that there is a lot less soles than people believe tend to be bottoms. I believe there’s a positive change between being a bottom and simply not knowing or requesting what you want. In my opinion those are two completely different things that folks conflate.
Christina
: i might have to concur, I also believe the way in which you mention bottoming is, What i’m saying is, let us just say it, plenty less aggravating than the way more and more people discuss getting a bottom or recognize with bottom part society. Because, i really do believe that exactly what a lot of people say explicitly or non explicitly is just, Im sluggish and never care and attention to do any kind of motion, task, et-cetera, i’d like things completed to myself. And, if I need certainly to look for that out in any way, that affects my personal emotions. And, you might be great and thus strong at becoming, they are points that i would like, bring these to me and I also will rock and roll your world. That’s attractive to me.
Chingy
: Thanks a lot, after all, that’s what you have to do to get proficient at only one thing, you have to put your self available to you and check out and also make mistakes and acquire harm somewhat, and, I’m not sure, study from it.
Christina
: I think that’s a beneficial information, honestly.
Chingy
: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I was actually, I’m not sure, dating back to I’m able to recall. [laughs]
Drew
: Cue “Rags to Riches” from
Goodfellas
.
Chingy
: Yeah, dating back to I can remember, i wanted to be a bottom. No, but form of, whenever I ended up being 13 or 14, I became already checking out SADOMASOCHISM websites and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM web sites. Therefore, I becamen’t under any delusions as to what I happened to be pertaining to, I found myself having ladies we dated in senior school choke myself down, I realized the thing I wanted. And therefore, that amount of understanding has just provided myself a number of years to understand what i would like and work out how to get it.
Christina
: Beautiful, Drew, provide me your emotions on bottoming.
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Drew
: Well, i am in fact truly thrilled to share this simply because I believe like in 2019 {when I|as I|while